Never a Christian and Once Saved Always Saved
[Bible Question] Hi, blessings I have a question. I believe people can lose their salvation.
Recently a friend in Christ asked me how many sins must one make to lose salvation, and how many times can one be born again, so I answer according to the little knowledge I have according to the bible. At the end he said, I think one who dies in sin was never a Christian to begin with. Then I realized he wasn’t discussing once saved always saved, but never saved false convert type. He used, ‘they come out of us but was never of us.’
Recently a friend in Christ asked me how many sins must one make to lose salvation, and how many times can one be born again, so I answer according to the little knowledge I have according to the bible. At the end he said, I think one who dies in sin was never a Christian to begin with. Then I realized he wasn’t discussing once saved always saved, but never saved false convert type. He used, ‘they come out of us but was never of us.’
[Bible Answers] Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thank you for your question about false converts and those never saved. You are right, such is a different topic than once saved always saved.
Usually it is the once saved always saved teachers who bring up this NON-related subject in an effort to conceal the license for sin that their doctrine is! It is a smokescreen which is EASY to see through when you know what to look for! Those FALSE teachers usually bring up Mt. 7:23 and 1 John 2:19. Neither scripture fits the identity of a person who was radically changed and set free from his sin addictions through repentance and faith in JESUS [which occurs at salvation]. Mt. 7:23 shows that group were continuous tense EVIL doers and 1 John 2:19 is answered in 1 John 2:22 where they didn’t believe Jesus was the Christ! Obviously, such were NEVER saved and shows how misused those passages really are to be cited as though the subjects were very sheep-like counterfeits of the real!
Usually it is the once saved always saved teachers who bring up this NON-related subject in an effort to conceal the license for sin that their doctrine is! It is a smokescreen which is EASY to see through when you know what to look for! Those FALSE teachers usually bring up Mt. 7:23 and 1 John 2:19. Neither scripture fits the identity of a person who was radically changed and set free from his sin addictions through repentance and faith in JESUS [which occurs at salvation]. Mt. 7:23 shows that group were continuous tense EVIL doers and 1 John 2:19 is answered in 1 John 2:22 where they didn’t believe Jesus was the Christ! Obviously, such were NEVER saved and shows how misused those passages really are to be cited as though the subjects were very sheep-like counterfeits of the real!What If You Are Wrong And Go To HELL
NOTE: ALL eternal security teachers believe King David remained saved in his adultery and murder! NONE of them say he was never saved because he turned to such vile wickedness! Clearly, King David died spiritually by turning to sin (Ezek. 33:18). Without question, the righteous can die spiritually. Here is more biblical information on the bogus never saved argument.
Be sure to carefully read over this page explaining and demolishing once saved always saved (eternal security) Finally, consider reading “The Believer’s Conditional Security: Eternal Security Refuted.” It is the most exhaustive work on this subject. Tell your friend about that book! Are you set free from your sin addictions now (Rom. 6:22)? God bless you.
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